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Alright now I can write whatever I want without having to stress about reactions. Right?
Also, disclaimer: Everything I write here is solely my very own opinion (which might sometimes be exaggerated on purpose,even) and I'm not claiming anything to be a fact.
Most important matters first: DK thoughts
DK got overall nerfed in the transition from brawl to smash4. I used to hear lots of opinions about DK being better now and thriving more in the new game engine. Idk if the general opinion on that has been changed, but to me it's clear that he is worse off than he was in brawl.
DK nerfs as I see them:
1. Green color. The brawl dark green was cool, the new green makes him look silly and dumb. Only good colors now are standard, black, white and maybe the one with the blue tie. I only use standard.
2. Less overall killing power. Smashes and DK punch seem to be killing at higher percents than they used to. Fsmash has a stupid gap where it doesn't hit people. DK punch takes an extra wind and feels weaker, also has a sourspot hit that is plain unnecessary. Side-B ground bury is useless, people get out as early as they want to, and if you hit them while grounded they don't go anywhere. His new upB is alright, but the old one was better. DK also doesn't really survive as well as he used to with momentum cancelling gone. So to me his moveset is kind of nerfed, he doesn't kill as fast as he could in brawl, and he dies a bit earlier due to momentum cancelling being gone.
Make his smashes a bit stronger, fix DK punch sourspot, remove Fsmash blindspot, make the side-B grounded mechanics work like they used to. And I'd be happier.
Sakurai, you were afraid that DK would be too strong before game launch and had to emergency nerf him? You are an idiot.. Now fix him. Regarding DK's custom moves
I prefer vanilla DK. Kong cyclone seems dumb and broken to me, I think it should be banned. Jump off the ledge, upB and cancel the sucktion stuff by grabbing the ledge. If someone was over you, they will get sucked down without hope of recovering, regardless of what their percentage is. I think. I don't play much with custom moves and I don't test stuff, so I'll leave this matter to those who do.
Anyway, yeah, I think DK gets better with custom moves (Kong cyclone in particular, maybe hot slap+jumping headbut too) but I'm not gonna play DK jumping around and making a dumb tornado upB my single most used follow-up move. There isn't anything DK-like with playing him like that imo. Also, I think most of his custom moves are dumb and make no sense. Why would he have electric and fire effects to his moves? Is he a pokemon? Where does it even come from, and what is DK like at all with them? I do kind of like his tornado punch for the silly things that can happen when you use it, but I don't like it more than his standard punch. And it's kind of dumb too. His side-B special options however feel more in-synch with the character and make a lot of sense. I don't have anything against those.
Oh and btw, I still find DK the most fun to play as, despite thinking he's got nerfed overall. I don't really care what tier DK is in, as long as I have fun playing him. It WOULD be more fun if side-B grounded mechanics were more like they were in brawl, though... General Smash4 thoughts
: Kind of brawl2 with no tripping and cheesy chaingrabs. Faster and more combos. Real spikes. I like smash4 a bit better than I did brawl, I think. I see no reason to go back. I also don't get the fuss about 2 vs 3 stocks, and people saying smash4 is slower than brawl. Are you guys serious? My personal experience is the opposite, smash4 matches are definitely taking less time for me than what brawl matches did. And I clearly remember watching lots of brawl streams where the timer DID run out, or almost ran out. Have people forgotten planking? Sure it's possible for smash4 matches to take forever when you have some players that make it their strategy to go for time outs. And I guess some matchups are just dumb like that too. Campy villager/Rob/DHD/Pacman/whatever. But now, sheik and diddy are doing most of the hard work on streams and stuff it seems. I still haven't seen a match involving sheik or diddy that took particularly long. I'm wondering if Dabuz timing out that Pacman player is all the reason for the 3 stock hate? Cause really, generally speaking when I compare past memories of brawl streams to what I'm seeing in smash4, to me it seems like Brawl was the more time consuming. My opinion though, please don't hate or rant Other smash4 character thoughts and expectations when I face them
. As a DK player I used to pretty much view this as a free win back in brawl. Not so now. Bowser is super fast, zooms around the stage like sonic on speed and makes it hard as hell to land on stage. He also got amazing range and strength, and he does not die easily. Bowser kills easier than DK, and he survives longer. With DK now not having any spectacular kill strength, bowser has become a tough matchup.
Expectations when playing Bowsers: Above averagly skilled players, will definitely try to cheese you to death at 30% with an overpowered Fsmash. Captain Falcon
Another free win gone rogue. He's super fast, combos, and kills easily. Surpassed DK just like bowser did, and the fact that these two now seem to have the edge over DK is really annoying. THEY WERE MY FREE WINS DAMNIT. Liked playing Falcon since smash64 and still do. He is more fun than ever.
Expectations: Decently skilled, will taunt and try to be cool. Diddy
: Always hated Diddy. He's better than DK in the smash games, but why? Thats NOT canon and it doesn't make any sense to me. So in addition to Diddy now straight up having become the most annoying thing to watch in smash4, I bear an extra grudge because they make him better than DK. Take him out of the games please! Ganondorf
: Still sucks. For the first time ever I don't like playing as him anymore. Taking away his no-lag downair ruined him for me. Ganon with a custom downB suddenly becomes sort of a threat since he can actually recover well. Link
. Why are there so many people playing Link, and why are they mostly so bad? Seems like huge Zelda franchise fans have bought smash for the sole reason of defendig their heros honor or something.
Expectations: Horrible skill level. Will try to shoot you a few times, but will mostly roll around all over the place and down/upsmash you whenever they can or can't. Will also try to get in way too many Fsmashes, and releases both hits even if you stand on the other side of the stage. If you taunt, they will, out of honor, refuse to hit you. I think it's possible to beat them in for glory by taking off the first stock then taunt spamming, as their sense of honor will keep them from hitting you at all before time runs out. Toonlink
: Generally speaking the same as Link, just worse and more annoying. Has no sense of honor at all, and if you taunt he will run over as fast as he can and finally get in that beloved upsmash of his. Will also try to get you with downair every time he is above you, and will not learn his lesson after getting DK punched to death for it several matches in a row. Also one of the worst characters to deal with in laggy online matches ever. Greninja players
: Terribly skill level, roll around everywhere. Chief accomplishment for each match is randomly getting in 4 consecutive hits in a row with downair. Apart from that, not much to be happy about for em. Little Mac
: Used to see LOTS of him on for glory, but guess they all got sick of being thrown out and gimped at 0. Apart from DK and Falcon, Little Mac is the only smash 4 character I really enjoy playing now. It wouldn't hurt him to get a little recovery buff.
Think I'm happy with that. Don't know why I wrote all this, but for some reason I just really wanted to..